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  Governing body deceiving members on purpose?

  by wwjdnwt in

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  2. beliefs

  i was born into this religion.

  i was a jw for well over 30 years.

  i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.

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  The expression Ray Franz coined was "victims of victims". Individuals who have a "crisis of conscience" find themselves in a very precarious spot. I stayed for a few years as a "reformer" but eventually it becomes too heavy of a burden. I would guess that most members sincerely believe their own malarkey.
  
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  Governing Body, painted in a corner, now what?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the governing body have painted themselves in a corner, so to speak.

  if they acknowledge their response to abuse claims was insensitive, unloving and inadequate they are denying the belief that "god's way" is best and risk losing abuse cases.

  if they stick with it and say it is "god's way according to the bible" they will be seen as cult leaders and risk losing abuse cases.

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  I think its a bombshell. There is going to be immediate carnage in terms of people leaving, withdrawing financial support and possibly criminal charges for destroying evidence related to a felony - possibly multiple counts. There is also going to be fallout - making it more difficult to recruit new members. The organization has had years of brain drain and reminds me of a old boxer who has taken too many punches.
  
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  This misquote makes my blood boil! (Excuse the pun)

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this absolutely upsets me!they always keep doing this garbage, putting people into harm's way by not telling them the whole information!and plus, any blood info from australia is likely biased... the two jw's they hired to manage blood transfusions in australia are doing an excellent job at doing propaganda.

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  They would like to Jehovah's Witnesses to believe that science fully supports the WTS policy, and they selectively go about sharing only the parts that "tickle their ears".
  
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  Synthetic Blood in 2 Years? How Will the GB Shoot This Down?

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  interesting read.

  if they already allow "fractions," there's no way they can ban this.. here:www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-to-give-volunteers-synthetic-blood-made-in-a-laboratory-within-two-years-10343279.html.

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  We would welcome that development. That said, however, it would require a substantial reform of the current policy which forbids the use of red cells.
  
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  A Call for Government Action in Ghana

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in a new editorial, "the chronicle" is calling for government action on the jehovah's witness blood policy.

  this thread has caught the attention of jw apologists.

  i have already responded several times.

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  In a new editorial, "The Chronicle" is calling for government action on the Jehovah's Witness blood policy. This thread has caught the attention of JW apologists. I have already responded several times. It would be good if others could also offer some thoughtful comments.

  Editorial from "The Chronicle" in Ghana.
  
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  Jehovah's Witness woman refuses blood, then dies.

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  another jehovah's witness woman has died while giving birth due to massive blood loss and refusing a blood transfusion.

  she leaves nine children behind.

  she finally consented to the transfusion but it was too late to save her.

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  Another Jehovah's Witness woman has died while giving birth due to massive blood loss and refusing a blood transfusion. She leaves nine children behind. She finally consented to the transfusion but it was too late to save her. http://allafrica.com/stories/201506231495.html
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  Hemopure, what has the WT and JW Org actually said on this stuff ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  on a number of threads i have seen it mentioned that the jw scam "religion" approves the use of hemopure.. is this in print anywhere please ?.

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  Its widely known among insiders and was used as recently

  as the Boston Marathon bombing despite its status with the FDA.

  If in doubt, place a call to Hospital Information Services.

  http://ajwrb.org/science/watchtower-approves-hemopure
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  Stay up to date on the Blood Issue!

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  ajwrb now has a facebook page.

  please follow along:.

  https://www.facebook.com/ajwrb.

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  AJWRB now has a Facebook page. Please follow along:

  https://www.facebook.com/ajwrb

  Lee Elder

  I have one of my own as well:

  https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009479973818
  
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  Reflections - Updating MD card - did you stop updating?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i finally removed my md card from my wallet yesterday.. although we were encouraged to create a new card annually, i had an internal hesitation, and a lack of enthusiam for it, as well as the meaningless cards for my kids.. the card that was pulled from my wallet was dated 1994. i obviously had some unconscious, if not conscious, problems with the borg, maybe with the 1995 generations bs.. did others stop updating their cards long before exiting?.

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  There is some very strong programming that went all the way back to my early childhood.

  I carried the blood card for three years after I ceased believing in the policy - just in case

  I was questioned! I wasn't even going to meetings and still had the card in my wallet.

  I believe I mention the story in my JME article:

  http://jme.bmj.com/content/26/5/375.full
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  feeling sad

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the past number of months have been traumatic for myself and my family.. the fascist practices of the wts have wreaked monumental harm to us all - with 3 members hospitalized for suicide.. researching past events brings one to the overwhelmingly sad story of bethany hughes, and her parents lawrence and arliss.. (arliss was featured years later on a dc for her courage through their ordeal.).

  larry did what any normal, loving father would do.. try to protect his daughter.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocex1eu5v6u.

  it is doubly sad knowing personally one of the wts lawyers involved, and his relatives who have left the wts despite the harsh consequences.. sometimes, i wish there were a "dante" hell.. .

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  Not really possible to say "I know how you feel". I don't. I know what the experience

  was like for me and I've seen many others in similiar situations. This is what I would

  say to you. Please know that you can get past this. Life is definitely different once

  your eyes have become open and there is certainly some trauma and a period of

  adjustment, but life can be good again. Indeed, life post WT can be very good.

  Hang in there and don't be afraid to get some help - that is just another programmed

  phobia.

  All the best,

  Lee